From: rusin@washington.math.niu.edu (Dave Rusin) Newsgroups: sci.math.research,sci.nonlinear Subject: Re: Covering problem - reference please? Date: 8 Sep 1995 05:59:02 GMT In article <42li1i$e8l@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>, phil diamond wrote: >I am trying to find estimates for the minimal number >of points in an \epsilon - net for the sphere S^{k-1} >in \Re^k. This is equivalent to the minimal number of >balls of radius \epsilon, with centres on the sphere, >which cover it. The answer is obviously O(\epsilon^{1-k}). >I can easily see the lower bound, but cannot immediately >justify the upper bound. Perhaps the moderator will squelch this if I'm missing something deep here, but you seem to be asking for a demonstration that it is possible to find O(epsilon^(1-k)) points on S^{k-1} such that every point on the sphere is within a distance of \epsilon of one of the points. Why not just proceed by induction: given such an array {P_n} of points on S^{k-2} such that every point is at most \epsilon/2 from some P_n, take a number of copies of this to get an array on the cylinder [-pi/2, pi/2] x S^{k-2} (that is, use the points (-pi/2 + m \epsilon/2, P_n) where m runs from 0 to 2pi/\epsilon). Then from any point on the cylinder you need only run a distance at most \epsilon/2 to reach one of the copies of S^{k-2}, and then at most a distance \epsilon/2 to one of the P_n on that copy of S^{k-2}. Once you have this arrangement of points on the cylinder, fold everything in to S^{k-1}, that is, send (t, z) to (sin(t), cos(t) z); this just reduces length. This procedure starts with 2pi/\epsilon points on the circle and constructs 8pi^2/\epsilon^2 points on S^2, then 64pi^3/\epsilon^3 points on S^3, and in general 2^{k(k-1)/2} (pi/\epsilon)^{k-1} points on S^{k-1}. Of course this is nowhere near the best constant (already there are too many points near the poles of S^2) but the exponent on \epsilon is right. If you do need to get the right constant, you're asking for an equidistribution of points on spheres, which is more complicated. (I can give you some pointers if that's what you need.) dave ============================================================================== From: WimmerLienha@edvz.sbg.ac.at (your_name) Newsgroups: sci.math.research,sci.nonlinear Subject: Re: Covering problem - reference please? Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:33:00 GMT In article <42li1i$e8l@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>, pmd@maths.uq.oz.au says... > >I am trying to find estimates for the minimal number >of points in an \epsilon - net for the sphere S^{k-1} >in \Re^k. This is equivalent to the minimal number of >balls of radius \epsilon, with centres on the sphere, >which cover it. The answer is obviously O(\epsilon^{1-k}). >I can easily see the lower bound, but cannot immediately >justify the upper bound. The estimate is apparently well >known (to those who know it well) and extends to any >(n-1)-dimensional compact manifold. > This problem seems to be connected with the following: place n congruent circles on the surface of a sphere, so that they cover the surface, and that their radius is minimal. This problem was treated by L.Fejes-Toth [1,2], who proofed an inequality, giving solutions for n = 3,4,6,12; G.Fejes-Toth [3] solved it for n = 10 and 14, and T.Tarnai & Zs.Gaspar [4] found a way to compute good point sets for n up to 20, but without any proof. I hope these hints are a help for you, Lienhard Lienhard Wimmer Inst. fuer Mathematik Hellbrunnerstr. 34 A-5020 Salzburg Austria/Europe wimmerlienha@edvz.sbg.ac.at [1] L.Fejes-Toth: Regular Figures, McMillan 1964 [2] L.Fejes-Toth: Lagerungen in der Ebene, auf der Kugel und im Raum Springer, Berlin-Heidelberg-New York, 1956, 1972 [3] G.Fejes-Toth: Kreisueberdeckungen der Sphaere Sci. Scientiarum Mathematcarum Hungarica 4 (1968), 225-247 [4] T.Tarnai, Zs. Gaspar: ^ Covering a sphere by equal circles, and the ridity of its graph. Math.Proc.Camb.Phil.Soc 110 (1991), 71 - 89