From: frank@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Frank Manning) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: a plane twice bigger has a engine more powerful Date: 11 Nov 1996 01:51:03 GMT In article <01bbcf46$b8ab1220$330296c2@club-internet.club-internet.fr> "gdm" writes: > This is a problem that I didnot succeed to solve when I was a student. It > was a long time ago. A toy-plane flies well. I want to build a plane twice > bigger. I thought candidly that the engine had to be 2*2*2=8 times more > powerful. I was wrong: the engine had to be 8*root(2) more powerful but I > had never understood why and I regret to have not dared to ask my teacher. > Please explain me the exact reason because, for 20 year ago, I think > sometimes at this problem. Intersting problem. First we need to clarify what "twice bigger" really means. I'll assume that means we double the linear dimensions of the airplane. We'll use wingspan as a characteristic dimension. We also need know the weight of the larger airplane. We'll assume the "density" of the two airplanes is equal. In other words, the weight is proportional to the cube of some characteristic dimension -- wingspan, for example. Actually, it's not obvious that this is a reasonable assumption. But having worked this problem before, I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader (hint -- a 1/10 scale model of an existing full-scale airplane seems to fly OK if the weight ratio is 10^3). Now we need to know a little fluid mechanics. Actually, this is more of a sci.physics problem than sci.math, but anyway... It helps to know that the lift-to-drag ratio (L/D) depends only on the angle of attack and external shape of the airplane. This isn't precisely true, since L/D is a weak function of Reynolds number, but we'll ignore that effect. We also ignore Mach number effects. We assume the two airplanes have the same external shape. Both airplanes are assumed to fly straight-and-level at the same angle of attack, which means (L/D)1 = (L/D)2. Drag = Lift / (L/D) Thrust = Drag (for nonaccelerated, straight-and-level flight) Power = Thrust * Velocity = Drag * Velocity Power = Velocity * Lift / (L/D) Power1 Velocity1 * Lift1 / (L/D)1 ------ = -------------------------- Power2 Velocity2 * Lift2 / (L/D)2 But (L/D)1 = (L/D)2 Power1/Power2 = (Velocity1/Velocity2) * (Lift1/Lift2) Lift = (1/2) * Air_Density * Velocity^2 * Area * CL (Drag is similar, except use CD instead of CL.) Velocity = sqrt(2 * Lift / Air_Density * Area * CL) Both airplanes are flying at the same angle of attack, which means CL is the same for each: Velocity1 sqrt(2 * Lift1 / (Air_Density * Area1 * CL)) --------- = -------------------------------------------- Velocity2 sqrt(2 * Lift2 / (Air_Density * Area2 * CL)) sqrt(2 / (Air_Density * CL)) * sqrt(Lift1 / Area1) = -------------------------------------------------- sqrt(2 / (Air_Density * CL)) * sqrt(Lift1 / Area1) (Lift1 / Area1) = sqrt(-------------) (Lift2 / Area2) Power1 Lift1 * sqrt(Lift1/Area1) ------ = ------------------------- = Power_Ratio Power2 Lift2 * sqrt(Lift2/Area2) Lift1^(3/2) * Area2^(1/2) Power_Ratio = ------------------------- Lift2^(3/2) * Area1^(1/2) In straight-and-level flight, Lift = Weight. From the airplane density relationship: Lift1 = ka * Span1^3 Lift2 = ka * Span2^3 Span2 = 2 * Span1 Lift2 = ka * (2 * Span1)^3 Lift2 = ka * Span1 * 8 There is a similar relationship between the two wing areas: Area1 = kb * Span1^2 Area2 = kb * Span2^2 Area2 = kb * (2 * Span1)^2 Area2 = kb * Span1 * 4 To summarize: Area2 = 4 * Area1 Lift2 = 8 * Lift1 Lift1 ^(3/2) * (4*Area1)^(1/2) Power_Ratio = --------------------------------- (8*Lift1)^(3/2) * Area1 ^(1/2) +-------------------------------+ Power2 = 2^(7/2)*Power1 = | Power2 = 8 * sqrt(2) * Power1 | +-------------------------------+ where Air_Density: Self explanatory Area: Wing area CL: Lift coefficient CD: Drag coefficient Drag: Aerodynamic drag ka, kb: Proportionality constants (L/D): Lift-to-drag ratio, also CL/CD Lift: Aerodynamic lift Power: Thrust power = Thrust * Velocity Span: Wingspan Thrust: Aerodynamic force produced by propulsion system Velocity: True airspeed Subscript meanings: Span1: Span of small airplane Span2: Span of large airplane etc. -- Frank Manning -- Chair -- American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics, Tucson Section